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Karen Bakker was an eminent Canadian academic and author of a book called The Sounds of Life, about how digital technology is helping us to understand the non-human world. In this episode of the podcast Tech Tonic, John Thornhill interviews Karen about how machine tools are enabling us to listen in to the planetary conversation that has been going on all around us for a very long time. Karen explains how bioacoustics is helping us to understand the non-human world and the risks associated with using AI to one day speak with animals.